Falgor. Tireless. Kimimaro. A legendary warrior destroys his foes in the Land of Shadow. Posting for Norre.
I hope that's true, cause if so...
Korbin, malgamate with me.
[new] Date: 07. Nov, 2008, 20:55:11 By: Khaine
I don't think Khaine was ever trying to pretend that he was his own brother rather than himself. But I'll assume your comment was directed to someone else even though it was made in reply to Khaine. Is everyone who rated this log a 6 also by necessity the same person, according to your logic?
So you've given up pretending Khaine is your brother?
There's no excuse, I'm just pissing you off. So what?
--I suppose, though, it's a semantic difference. I would also accept a point of view that she was a very good puppet (because it takes some skills... which many lack... to be a very good puppet.)
There's a distinction between what I'm describing and puppetry. The skills used in assisting someone else with a PK and with performing one yourself are not the same. I can do both acceptably, but I am much better at the one than the other. Syra is substantially better as backup than as the primary PKer. She accepts instruction well, and when she isn't given a specific instruction she can figure out what needs to be done to achieve a goal.
hence the word puppet Tireless - her actions are a direct consequence of the person telling her what to do.
The real question - can she pass the Turing test?
My turn!
Retardedness of Tireless as a function of time: f(t) = e^t
Syra _in the company of Aryl_ is substantially better than most PKers currently playing. How good she is, however, is a function of who she's PKing with. On the scale of 1-10, I'd say how good she is can be modeled as f(x)=(2/3)x + 2 [1,10] (where x=skill of player from whom she is taking direction) -- so in the company of Aryl she was between an 8 and an 8.67
Only disagree with you on one point Pounder, and that's your use of plural when describing the skilled attackers in the second log. Aryl is better than these 3, but Syra's no more than a puppet.
Burzukh quit on me at ZZ too. Twice :(
Then you quit on Jaren at ZZ, just like this mcnoobler add cheese did.
Don't pretend you don't know who Etrius is, Faris. You were in a guild with him with that transferred char of yours for quite a while.
Spike's log is much better than this.
Lobo has been cheshire catted!
And serafina, quit being a complete moronic man-cunt, Waste was the one who was saying this was the best log ever posted.
Waste, this is not an attack on your feelings on the log, but you yourself just said it is very difficult for warriors to 1vs1 someone nowdays. Well, then through your argument you are actually saying that this log is possible due to luck. As caber said, all someone did was get a party to hunt him through a spot that can lose a party member (not bad strats but not advanced at all - been done for years and years), and then hit alias to lock up. So here is a comparison:
This log:
Get party to follow.
Hit alias until party is seperated.
Hit alias to lock.
Kill solo hunter.
Repeat until all are dead.
Take another log that was one of the greatest I have seen:
Get attacked.
Run to location that boots can fall off.
Run and survive on some luck AND break the party.
Get to MT.
Glass players attacking because they don't have boots.
The difference in these two are, the amount of variables and improv that must be done in the second variation vs the first. Also, the level of risk in the second is 10 times higher because in the first instance the person KNEW he had a second person there as support where as the second, he was completely solo and by himself. The player in the first instance put it up to luck and some equipment variance and a second player helping him. The second instance, the person's plan would work if he could survive the journey knowing he was outsmarting the attackers. Also, in this case, as much of a cancer as the second attackers were, they were much more skilled than the first and still were completely schooled.
Myrddin is correct. Falgor quit, Lobo told me to come, maybe 3 minutes later I showed up expecting Norre to be low and out of healing or something, got locked right away, then about 2-3 minutes later the 3rd guy hunted in thinking the same thing.
Ok I've been nice for a while now 'Samantha' but at this point I'd like you to explain your plan and why it's failed so miserably. Fuck, I mean I told you it was stupid to begin with. Nobody ever listens to Hirgail.
Aryl? Because I don't have access to Aryl's logpage account... because I wasn't his typist? Posting with two accounts confusing you?
Why aren't you using your own chars to comment?
Caber, I agree with the majority of what you said, but please note that I never said this log was one of the best of all time. Thanks for paying attention.
Near as I can figure, it was excessive being-a-crackhead-on-the-comm that finally forced the issue. Cheers.
Waste, lol. Warriors are pretty fuckin tanked. Stop talkin outta your ass.
I fucking wish I'd been able to get him hardbanned.
You can't pin this one on me:(
Your absence?
What happened to get Lobo and Quiauh nuked?
Looks like he killed 3 attackers in 3 sequences of combat, since as I noted only Lobo (who didn't die) was ever in combat with him at the same time as any of the others.
To Etrius, who I have no idea who he is but always found reasons to bash me: being nuked for the 9/11 was just due to Melkor wanting to vent his anger towards the whole ordeal, I am an Arab, and I was there. The comment I made was not the smartest one I admit, but I had countless conversations with Melkor about it and its been settled.
Caber, your standards of whats a good log and whats not is directly reflected on the current game. This log would be far less impressive back in the day when Warriors were combat supremos, but in the current state of the game, warriors are just like any other profession, killable and very solo-able. Imo, this log is up there with the best because it involved breaking up a potential bang and turning the tables by killing 3 of the 4 guys involved. No matter how heavily prepared you are, its pretty hard to kill 3 attackers in one sequence of combat. I was merely promoting to have this log up there with the best ever posted for nostalgic reasons, when you are away for so long and want to read something exciting about the mud, you will be able to! But anyways, thats my opinion...
Serafina is just a mouthpiece for Sean in this thread, and Sean's over inflated ego is now applied to his minions (Norre, etc.) since he can't cheat here anymore.
It's a decent log, but seriously, you're trying to make an argument that it's something amazing? The only impressive things Norre did were (a) being well prepared, which is certainly something to admire, and (b) splitting some guys up at BD, which you can claim is 'hard' all you want, but going back and forth between two rooms until there's only one guy following you isn't rocket science. It's definitely not something for a novice pkiller, but it's not a legendary display of anything. Soloing people 3 times in a row as a warrior (and one time not actually soloing) is not hard.
If you actually intend to argue player skill, you have to consider what Norre's opponents did to make it hard on him, and what he did to overcome it. So I ask you, Serafina, what did any of Norre's opponents do to make it hard on him? He could be the best player of all time for all it matters...but if that's the case, I wouldn't know it, because this log just shows him doing the same things that many others are easily capable of. Is it a good log? Absolutely. Is it the best log ever? Of course not, and your bias becomes rather obvious when you start campaigning as such.
And as a side note, several logs have been posted where someone kills 3 or so players on the glass shards in MT. Does that make the player (usually me, lolol) legendary for killing 3 people at the same time? Hardly. It's an easy trick to pull if your opponents fall for it. Exploiting an enemy's weaknesses makes you good; exploiting a _very good_ enemy's weaknesses makes you great.
I try to stay impartial, and I do think Norre is a good player. I'd give it a 5 or so if I ever really rated logs, but I certainly wouldn't start blowing smoke about how it deserves to be the highest rated log here. That just makes you sound dumb.
I have a good bit of respect for Norre at the moment, but christ, you're not helping him by speaking on his behalf. Unless you actually are Norre and you're just posting about yourself, and then you're a really sad excuse for a player.
To Norre: you are a good player. Serafina is not a good spokesperson.
I want a shoe contract!
fuck a legend. get him a shoe contract
Lobo you fucking martyr. Get that guy a legend.
I'm gonna assume Lobo was the reason Quiauh got hardbanned. Lobo's a hero, bitches.
I guess getting nuked for celebrating 9/11 is a much better reason. :p
oh come now waste. you had a few douchebaggish nukes too. the only reason they put that long of a reason in is because they think there will be some huge backlash everytime they nuke someone.
Makes you look like a total douche, nothing to be proud of:p
Lobo was nuked at 11:57 11/5/08
Lobo Dumau Tpish the numenorean Lich (Soul Gaoler) Arda's Hatemonger
Departed from Arda Gender: male
Age: 19d 5h 11m 52s
Lobo is a member of the Corsairs of Umbar.
Info: Quiauh tells you: do not visit my city [<o>]
Nuke Reason: Consistently harassing certain other players and breaking the MUD's rules as stated in 'help rules', 'help harassment' and 'help troublemaking', after repeated verbal and official warnings to cease doing so. The decision to delete this character reflects his
inability, or at the very least unwillingness, to contain his hateful
and harassive tendencies.
longest nuke reason evar!
lol@lobo :P you silly goose
who cares about real life personality? :P i dont know anyone here in real life, and hopefully never will. so ingame actions is what matters. fuck the rest :P
For the love of god, when will they nerf Fofester? I'm sick of this unbalanced shit.
Remove pk.
ahaha no more Quiauh, took long enough. I wonder what he'll do with his life now. Maybe WoW.
Not infected, so much as capable of seperating someone's ingame actions from real-life personality.
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Lobo has been nuked!
ll lobo
Lobo was nuked at 11:57 11/5/08
Lobo Dumau Tpish the numenorean Lich (Soul Gaoler) Arda's Hatemonger
Departed from Arda Gender: male
Age: 19d 5h 11m 52s
Lobo is a member of the Corsairs of Umbar.
Info: Quiauh tells you: do not visit my city [<o>]
Nuke Reason: actions detrimental to the mud
Jakar is infected!!
who honestly gives a shit about ratings?
I haven't hated the herkies in quite awhile, hell...I've met most of them in real-life.
Kudos to Jakar for putting his hate aside and rating this a 6.
Not that I care a whole lot, as this is after all a logpage for a game; and to put things in perspective, I'm not going to get worked up about ratings on logs of a game (there are more important things to get worked up about in life). But I'm with Waste all the way on this one: there's no way this at all -justifiably- warrants one-votes.
Can't remove comment but I take back the hypocrite thing, apparently I didn't see the ratings I thought from you on recent logs.
Waste, go read the ratings, I gave it a 4 which is what I felt the log deserved. But looking at the ratings you've been dishing out lately, I'd say you're a fucking hypocrite.
All this log shows is the retardedness. The lemmings analogy was a great one.
I'd really rather keep certain people who have quit the mud away from herkies or anything related to them. Just look at what happened to Jerf and Grimscar.
Myrddin, not that i want to weight in your personal fued with Serefina typist (its very obvious who he is), but being able to elevate yourself from personal attacks and rate a log based on its value really gives a better indication on the logpage-all-time-great-logs. I personally believe it would be a shame to have this log blend in with the rest of the 13500 logs posted. I believe that certain people who have quit the mud and want to check on some worthwhile action from the mud would be able to read such a good fight as this one. All this said withstanding my ignorance towards who the poster of this log is, and how much people hate him...
Apparently the overt sarcasm wasn't overt enough.
It deserves better than a 1, but less than a 6. It's sitting on a 3.8, which is probably slighly below what it deserves but close enough given the fickleness of how people rate these days.
All the 1 ratings on this log is pathetic tho. It deserves better.
Did you just say that locking a person and killing him is harder then hunting one that uses breaks and one of them is a double break? Back then it might not have been something speciel but today you hardly see people bothering to trigger breaks at all.
Ratings talk by themselves: this log isn't worth more than a 3.8, thus far. End of discussion.
Any noob could've done that Mirnac, but breaking an unequipped necro from his 2 different party leaders via BDgate then locking the leaders one by one against a 2man; that takes real skill.
Well what i love about spikes log is that: He gets attacked by bang, breaks in rhos waits for the attack from a figure then moves to dale where he drains his attackers ep, kill him and then start hunting Jackal, and hunts through 3breaks where 2 of them by hand. And is very low on hp.
Make that a quadruple post for style points.
Delvar, I'm disappointed you couldn't recognise the voice of the man with his head 2 metres up his ass and his own cock in his mouth.
Sean, use your own fucking accounts you dipshit.
Incapable even of pretending there's only one typist behind your posts, kudos. New level of stupidity.
Thanks Waste, the current logpage denizens are even more fucking petty and moronic than ever before! Revel in their ignorance with me, it is rather amusing.
I obviously know more about it than you do, but thanks for coming out... I made 2 accurate statements in that post with respect to old stuff: Ignoring one, and falsely portraying the second as inaccurate makes you look like an idiot, not me. Good try though.
Prod was never a top 5, not even when it first came out...
It doesn't matter if he is or if he isn't, that is totally irrelevant to the log itself. Please don't try and divert attention away from the fact that you got brutally owned. And I don't give a fuck that you're ignoring me in this case, because I know some slack-jawed retard will relay this post to you anyway.
Serafina, were you even born in the days that Spike log occured?
Shit-tastic weapons? Too bad prod was like one of the top 5 then. Not that you know anything about how the MUD is even now much less years ago.
Wow, hatred towards a character really does affect the way you look at his logs... You guys seriously believe that this log is bad and should not have ever been posted?
Is Norre post banned? If not why isn't he posting his own logs? If so, when did this happen? Anyway, me being there at all was kind of bad luck... I wasn't planning on pking that login :P
The last vestiges of hope for Western culture are preserved! Let's hope Barack drinks an Ulmo each morning, bullets are pretty fucking hard to dodge outside of the Matrix.
Whose feeding Serafina comments to post
YEAH OBAMA YEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEHAYEHAYAUYASYSDYSDYSYDSYDGFYDU
WELCOME BACK INTELLIGENT PEOPLE OF AMERICA
To see urban comments alone seems to be even funnier!
r u tryin to act smart cunt??
not WoRkiNg!!
Not being required to do something, and not possessing the capacity with which to accomplish the same task is very different.
i don't have to, cunt :(
Get a clue, cunt-SCAB.
shut up cunt
And if you'd like to try it sometime, breaking people up on the BD entrance is not as easy as it looks, you need to react super quickly to what happens, faster than the average mudder can type 'enter' or 'west/east'.
Spike's log is far from the greatest of all time: Ravathir, Aryl, Spartan, Winnetou, Daywalker, Kelemir, Baklen and Alkath have all done things just as incredible. Greatness inspires envy. As do volatile personalities and immature egotistical behaviour. Oh well. Word up to the people who prove there is still a sense of respect for a display like this.
Reason Spike's log is nowhere near as good as people think it is, regardless of whatever innovation or ballsy moves he did: Mmail and old HBS = permanent Ulmo/Mandos the entire fight, vs shit-tastic weapons + he got a crit. Oh well, mob mentality for the lose!
this was nice. great job!
Are you really comparing this to Spike's log? The predictability of this log alone makes it worse. This was a good set of locks, I'm not trying to take away from that, but it was pretty dull in terms of combat. Breaking up a bang and killing them stylishly is a step above this, especially considering how close Spike came to dying.
that was just very, bery bad planning and ubersucky gear (i didn't even have a staff, falgor was losing tons of eq from our armoury) :P
Herkie log detected, auto-rating...
I have no idea how the fuck that double posted, but oh well.
I have no idea how the fuck that double posted, but oh well.
double posts own
double posts own
Other things it loses on Spike's log:
Breaking up the party was a hell of a lot easier
Was never attacked by more than 2 people
Used a lockup which is rather crude compared to what Spike did, plus Spike's had a backhunt where he went down to <20hp.
Good log, but the only real comparison to Spike's is how badly the enemy fucked up.
Other things it loses on Spike's log:
Breaking up the party was a hell of a lot easier
Was never attacked by more than 2 people
Used a lockup which is rather crude compared to what Spike did, plus Spike's had a backhunt where he went down to <20hp.
Good log, but the only real comparison to Spike's is how badly the enemy fucked up.
Nice log, and nice fight, total massacre.
Herkie or not, newbies or not, that's an entertaining log!
Thought it was a fun read...
points of view may look like bias, if they are different from yours. who can judge really? and more importantly, who cares?
It's a pretty decent log. Directly comparing it to Spikes, it beats it in splitting up a party (multiple times), 2 of 3 attackers dying, the other quitting (it would have actually been a better log if he'd been man anough to die and not switch chars instead).
Slightly bad points, (compared to spike)
Loses a little (not much) by getting someone else to help.
Looks like all three attackers had shite gear and no healing, it wasn't exactly 3 people trying to bang you, getting broken/split up and dying. But, not bad, definately not your every day log (especially these days).
The current rating speaks for itself really, (bias wise).
fdl
I like to entertain myself by imagining something like this flashing across these guys' screens:
Full of glee, you raise your head, cut one of your ears and
string it onto Norre's necklace as a trophy of your idiocy, for all to see.
You have died.
Next time just drop your gear and take turns cliffing yourselves. Fucking lemmings.
Good job, I guess. Nice to see some pwnage.
With no regard to the characters and/or typists involved in this log, it's pretty badass. I think one can either take out one's aggression on a typist and rate their logs low automatically, or view it objectively and realize this was a pretty good fight.
As a total neutral person who honestly have no idea who Norre or Serfina is, I feel this log is one of the best ever posted. Fair enough, the guys dying were pretty naive and stupid in the way they walked into that very same lock, but Mordor is not a play ground for newbies, nevermind BD. Good job Norre, excellent log.
Oops, I almost forgot.
Herkie log detected... Auto-rating.
I will say it again: I seriously don't understand how people can still die to herks these days...
Can't say I ever played much against them, but my odds are rather good:
5 fights against norre's typist, he died 3 times and innbroke twice.
1 fight against rauku's typist, he died.
It's really just a matter of being smarter than they are. Which is not really a difficult thing.
I see no legendary warrior in this log.
Boring log. Predictable as always. Newbies killing. Newbies dying. Too much healing in place. Terrible planning. Avirex and Lobo coming unscathed, the rest of them need some working.
not bad