An apology and some interesting reading

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Armandil [legacy]
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18 January 2010 00:00:00
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I am very sorry for what has happened and i am sorry for what has become of my old friend Twofoot

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    29 January 2010 20:01:48

    Yeah you fucked up you stoobid.

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    Urban [legacy]
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    29 January 2010 11:17:02

    Shit, mine was supposed to be 'Suck my moob'

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    Brubaker [legacy]
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    29 January 2010 11:16:15

    like a sugar cube.

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    Urban [legacy]
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    29 January 2010 11:12:17

    Suck my boob.

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    Lucky [legacy]
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    29 January 2010 06:19:49

    In your momma's tube.

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    Jakar [legacy]
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    29 January 2010 05:32:01

    I like lube.

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    29 January 2010 03:57:37

    boob

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    29 January 2010 01:50:42

    noob

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    29 January 2010 01:04:13

    TURKEY JERKY FOR PERKY QUIRKY HERKIE

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    28 January 2010 23:38:09

    truth 4 scrubs u nuub, i can haz rhun jerky.

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    28 January 2010 22:48:52

    Of course Lobo, and esteban has contributed to the mud as well! Now, lets keep the lying down a little bit here. We need at least some truth to hold onto!

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    28 January 2010 17:19:37

    But herkies to care about it!

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    Brubaker [legacy]
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    28 January 2010 17:05:23

    that way we'd only have herkies on mud, lobo

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    28 January 2010 16:56:58

    People who care about the mud shouldn't be allowed to play.

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    28 January 2010 16:28:32

    Let's compare your and Tireless' contributions to the MUD Esteban. Actually why bother, it's not like we can give a meaningful multiplier of 0 anyway.

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    Esteban [legacy]
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    28 January 2010 16:21:14

    That's the main problem Tireless, you don't care about this mud and you deserve no place here too...

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    28 January 2010 00:54:49

    Haha - Why so serious, son?

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    27 January 2010 21:20:48

    Come on guys, limit the gang bang on esteban to 3 please. He's a poor noob, please let him be. :(

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    Arandur [legacy]
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    27 January 2010 14:19:51

    Yay.

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    Urban [legacy]
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    27 January 2010 13:59:19

    Yeah, you fucking cunt. Why take it so seriously?

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    27 January 2010 12:41:40

    its just a game Eskhruban, y u take everything sosrsly LOL?!

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    27 January 2010 07:58:23

    Think I care? Your just jealous of my leet gangsta skills, cry some more noob. So bad.

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    Esteban [legacy]
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    27 January 2010 06:56:40

    Cry some more Tireless, yet you are even worse...

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    Armandil [legacy]
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    26 January 2010 21:22:23

    hahahaha

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    26 January 2010 20:16:50

    :)

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    26 January 2010 15:14:34

    it was called 'herkie' not 'herk', and you promised you wouldn't tell anyone :(

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    26 January 2010 10:51:36

    Goddamn I hate you shitheads.

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    Norin [legacy]
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    26 January 2010 08:25:21

    I got no idea why, but that post made me laugh. Tireless, you dirty smelling cunt! <3 :)

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    26 January 2010 04:53:34

    Oh, right... flaming. I heard that Lobo was seeking a life-partner of his own degree of pettiness and originality, so he sent away for a parrot.

    From Herkimer.

    Or, as he would put it, a 'Herk.'

    Upon its arrival, he discovered that, during shipping, the animal was in close proximity to a dirty eastern European chap and had consequently learned a reasonable variety of very clever insults. Disappointed by his parrot having surpassed his own degree of originality in taunting his subjects (Chanting 'Herk' and giggling to himself), Lobo decided that after doing it once he would send it back.

    After one night of passion, the Herk was on its merry way. That night would not soon be forgotten, however, as both man and beast had left each other with a very lasting memory.

    Seventeen weeks later (for the gestation period of a half beast/half Herk is not nearly the same as those of normal human beings) a new creature burst forth from ass of the parrot, nipping off the head of its progenitor. Ridley Scott was present for the event, built a time machine, went back in time and made it into a movie in 1979. Apparently the offspring more closely resembled the father.

    Lobo, in contrast, will be spending the rest of his life looking down at the beak-marks in his weapon and two acorns - a lasting reminder that while anal penetration is difficult with a bird 1/4 your size, oral on something whose mouth was specially designed to shatter nuts is never wise.

    Flame on. \m/

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    26 January 2010 02:57:49

    Or, I could have just used Lobo's comment: 'Tireless, stop being serious, it's unhealthy.' :)

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    26 January 2010 02:57:13

    But in hindsight, being so realistic and factual also seems to stop the flaming because noone can comeback against it. Especially if the best response you can get is this 'Tireless, there is no way that you can be completely serious in your comment regarding Rhakyrh. You might be the one with the mental issues if this is your true feelings and opinion.', its obvious there is no refuting what Tireless just said. :(

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    25 January 2010 23:09:28

    That's spot on Myrddin. I think Tireless is hilarious. :) And very straight forward, reminds me a lot of Alkath. :(

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    25 January 2010 20:00:02

    That would rely on his explanation being convincing Lobo. Which has about the same probability as you giving a shit.

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    25 January 2010 18:01:06

    Will you guys actually give a shit if he cares to explain? I won't.

    Tireless, stop being serious, it's unhealthy.

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    25 January 2010 16:54:35

    Bizarre, why don't you point out where he went wrong in his analysis? You're always entitled to your opinion, but support for it sometimes helps convince others to give a shit about what you think.

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    25 January 2010 07:55:55

    Tireless the dunedain *Ferk (Herk of Eru)

    (above fixed)

    Tireless, that is probably about the best explaination for the people you mentioned in the post down to the teeth. I am completely guilty of 'Pounder, but he can be a royal tool to people he doesn't like.' and that's just me, I won't appologize for it either. I do my stuff my own strange way but I still always wanted the towers to survive and thrive. Your analysis of Rhakyrh is dead on. And sadly, I think it's fairly easy to guess who Bizarre is then.

    This: *He frequently involves and mentions his family in the context of the game, then treats others who mentions the same as though they have committed a crime.

    It just sad, but it's actually inherent, because his family is on the mud now. Thank god my family doesn't ever want to play the towers. :)

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    Bizarre [legacy]
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    25 January 2010 06:40:53

    Tireless, there is no way that you can be completely serious in your comment regarding Rhakyrh. You might be the one with the mental issues if this is your true feelings and opinion.

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    Colven [legacy]
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    25 January 2010 05:00:32

    </3 Shabba

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    Woric [legacy]
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    25 January 2010 02:25:37

    wut the fuck r u all talking about??

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    Urban [legacy]
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    25 January 2010 01:58:40

    Tireless the dunedain Herk (Herk of Eru)

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    25 January 2010 01:56:54

    No, Lobo, it doesn't make sense. You just mad-libbed other names into the post. While it isn't grammatically incoherent, Pounder has never said a word about his RL family (as far as I know), nobody applies the herk-hate to Myrddin and Shabba is a teddy bear.

    Unless you accept that every post made by anyone about anyone or anything can be used for every other purpose, you're being silly.

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    25 January 2010 01:48:31

    I resent that, I'm completely lovable to everyone!

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    25 January 2010 00:45:10

    but it still makes sense!

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    25 January 2010 00:09:20

    You screwed up Lobo. Pounder was also mentioned in that post, so you have him being spoken about twice as seperate people.

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    24 January 2010 23:46:53

    I just found out that I can use that newest vitrol post from tireless to talk bad to anyone. Check this out:

    I don't think anyone seriously thinks that you are a major detriment to the MUD (At this point, anyway) **Myrddin**. Some people might say it, but I don't think they are really attached to the claim. Those who still apply the herk-hate to you, I think, are doing it more out of a sense of history, in what they think is good humour or to be tools. A lot of people may dislike you, but at the same time respect you to some degree. From his recent comments, I think Pounder is in this camp: maybe not thinking terribly highly of you, but not thinking you're a cancer or anything either.

    **Pounder**, on the other hand, can be categorized as fundamentally bad for the MUD on a number of levels. The ones most important to me are:

    *He represents the utter failure of administration of the rule of law.

    *He embodies an unhealthy preoccupation with the game.

    *He's demonstrated many symptoms of (several!) mental illness(es), yet is a leader among his demographic.

    *He pollutes the intellectual environment in which he exists.

    *He frequently involves and mentions his family in the context of the game, then treats others who mentions the same as though they have committed a crime.

    Not all of these symptoms are necessarily still expressed as...potently...as when I played, but the purpose of the comment was to establish that there exist genuine reasons to characterize him the way others have.

    My evaluation of **Shabba** has swung both ways, but eventually my conclusion was that, as a person, he's a nice guy. I mean, he can be a dick to people who don't treat him well, but that's true of most people. I like Pounder, but he can be a royal tool to people he doesn't like. In terms of the game, he certainly enjoys the powerplaying element more than or to the exclusion of the other components of the game, and he likes others to play the same way he does. This is not unusual; everyone does. From what I can tell, he is periodically vulnerable to being influenced by those around him, particularly **Pounder**. If left to his own devices (or if, at least, kept in isolation from **Pounder**) I suspect that he'd be regarded no worse than any other PKer.

    People certainly stop playing because of Valinor. People also stop playing because of environment-altering thunderous fishtwats. And they stop playing because of Valinorean refusal to enforce the rules. It's not just one thing.

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    Tevildo [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 23:29:04

    I thought Tireless's answer was going to be something about units and orders of magnitude, and that it was leading into a jibe about Rhakyrh being a magnificent unit. :( If only... if only.

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    Westar [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 21:07:06

    MORE DRAMA PLZ

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 20:59:30

    I live on a different island right now.

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 19:55:11

    'Far away' and 'on the same island' are not consistent claims. I mean, you live on an island.

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 19:54:22

    In the Australian outback? One of the most hostile and challenging areas in which to hike in the world? ...Myrddin lives near it?

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 19:53:58

    I'm far away from the Kimberley right now. Further than usual that is.

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    Urban [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 19:50:18

    What Kimberley? :O

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 19:43:13

    If you meet up for a jaunt in the Kimberley without me I will cut you.

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    Urban [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 19:26:18

    But Myrddin, we're planning to meet up for a steamy romp... no?

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    Winnetou [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 17:54:39

    AHAHAH Tireless, you made my day. Your comment is priceless:p lots of fun out there, you know

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 12:45:37

    People who 'play the game like it's a game' don't marry other mudders.

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 10:59:44

    Hah, Norre is a fucking douche. If I met him IRL I'd say the same thing I bet.

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    Teleporno [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 08:55:32

    man... I need to find another game. This is becoming way to political.

    Soon we will start haveing a star wars like saga

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 07:04:10

    I don't think anyone seriously thinks that you are a major detriment to the MUD (At this point, anyway) Cruice. Some people might say it, but I don't think they are really attached to the claim. Those who still apply the herk-hate to you, I think, are doing it more out of a sense of history, in what they think is good humour or to be tools. A lot of people may dislike you, but at the same time respect you to some degree. From his recent comments, I think Pounder is in this camp: maybe not thinking terribly highly of you, but not thinking you're a cancer or anything either.

    Rhakyrh, on the other hand, can be categorized as fundamentally bad for the MUD on a number of levels. The ones most important to me are:

    *He represents the utter failure of administration of the rule of law.

    *He embodies an unhealthy preoccupation with the game.

    *He's demonstrated many symptoms of (several!) mental illness(es), yet is a leader among his demographic.

    *He pollutes the intellectual environment in which he exists.

    *He frequently involves and mentions his family in the context of the game, then treats others who mentions the same as though they have committed a crime.

    Not all of these symptoms are necessarily still expressed as...potently...as when I played, but the purpose of the comment was to establish that there exist genuine reasons to characterize him the way others have.

    My evaluation of Norre has swung both ways, but eventually my conclusion was that, as a person, he's a nice guy. I mean, he can be a dick to people who don't treat him well, but that's true of most people. I like Pounder, but he can be a royal tool to people he doesn't like. In terms of the game, he certainly enjoys the powerplaying element more than or to the exclusion of the other components of the game, and he likes others to play the same way he does. This is not unusual; everyone does. From what I can tell, he is periodically vulnerable to being influenced by those around him, particularly Rhakyrh. If left to his own devices (or if, at least, kept in isolation from Rhakyrh) I suspect that he'd be regarded no worse than any other PKer.

    People certainly stop playing because of Valinor. People also stop playing because of environment-altering thunderous fishtwats. And they stop playing because of Valinorean refusal to enforce the rules. It's not just one thing.

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    Brubaker [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 06:46:57

    die

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    Arandur [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 06:44:17

    Think I care herkie? CRY SOME MORE!

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    Cruice [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 06:11:18

    I'll post a tri-comment as my last and final. Everyone be well.

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    Cruice [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 06:10:25

    I've also yet to here a legitimate excuse as to who you all think the people are, that are making others leave the MUD. Rhakyrh and myself? What for? Playing the game like it's a game? Or maybe you've brainwashed yourselves enough with this 'hate' that you won't be satisfied until we are no longer around? Then what? Find a new group and try to force them off the MUD? Wait, wouldn't that mean that you all are detriments to the MUD?

    It's pathetic to think that 2, 3, maybe 4 people can do something so much different than anyone else and stop people from playing. Last I knew, more people quit playing the MUD because of changes from Valinor that they didn't agree with, or lack there of.

    Of course I'll be wrong because most of you will barely read through this comment and go straight to nit picking and hating.

    Maybe, just maybe most of you will change my mind and have a respectful chat or discussion about issues that you're concerned with. (I doubt it highly)

    Right after this comment would be where some smartass dipshit would say something clever like 'herkie' 'CRY SOME MORE' or maybe even 'Think I care?' (Lobo, Brubaker, Arandur, Lucky, or someone using a name they don't usually comment with to try and prove me wrong.)

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    Cruice [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 05:55:37

    Brubaker, please tell me you had a brain lapse and a bucket to catch the drool leaking from your mouth when you typed that.

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    Ansgar [legacy]
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    23 January 2010 01:26:45

    ...

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    Brubaker [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 23:04:14

    [new] Date: 22. Jan, 2010, 22:42:25 By: Esteban

    Esteban is still the one you knew for whole years, it's just you all had brainfarts and cannot think properly, that's why...

    It's like gay going to men's room and telling people to touch his penis...

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 22:55:34

    Armandil, the problem is, you aren't paying attention to why people hate certain people. For instance, I hated durms a while back (the original ones not the cesspool cheater infestation of recent), but I hated them on more of a how you should hate them (because they are evil or killed friends etc). Rather than on a their lack of personality and regard for the environment is making people leave. If you cannot judge this, thats fine, but do not expect sympathy until you investigate the causes on a more in depth scale. Twofoot was completely in the right to do what he did. He would have been your friend and most likely long term guildmate if you had made different choices leading up to your application.

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 22:43:40

    Trust us :)

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 22:43:21

    No, Esteban is a herkie who's bitter over a game.

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    Arandur [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 22:43:09

    No you are not, I left the MUD a good friend of yours, 7 months later I return and you are -totally- different, trust me. :P

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    Esteban [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 22:42:25

    Esteban is still the one you knew for whole years, it's just you all had brainfarts and cannot think properly, that's why...

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    Arandur [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 22:39:31

    Its a sad loss. :(

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 22:25:55

    Esteban has been infected.

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    Esteban [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 22:25:11

    Yea, thanks for proving me right, you are all retards...

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 21:59:19

    tsk tsk, again people asking for reason to hate. You have to learn how to hate for free, armandil.

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    Armandil [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 21:50:47

    They have been friendly with me, why shouldn't i return that?

    I am not gonna hate a certain group of players just because another group of players hates them!

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 18:09:23

    You don't. Otherwise you wouldn't be friendly with herkies.

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    Armandil [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 15:26:57

    But that's it pounder, i do give a shit about the t2t invironment.

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    Urban [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 04:55:10

    Yo momma.

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    Fofester [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 02:52:22

    hie guys what's going on here

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    Jakar [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 01:03:32

    Has been for awhile now!

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 00:23:17

    Esteban is officially retarded.

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    22 January 2010 00:10:28

    '[new] Date: 21. Jan, 2010, 18:12:10 By: Esteban

    Talking about Rhakyrh when he cannot respond... pretty pathetic... '

    I really couldn't give a shit about his feelings. If he cannot respond, maybe he should fucking learn the rules a little better?

    'Pounder, i love the entire invionment on the t2t, that's why i play it, and well, maybe it's just me, but i can't understand how a comment like, it looks like you are getting slaughtered, wouldn't it be wiser to surrender can hurt anyone, though i realize that it did hurt and therefore i apologise.'

    If that truly is your response, then its obvious why you fit in with people like that. Maybe you are just blind to what people really are like. Your friends couldn't give a shit about the environment, only what they get out of it. That's all they have or will ever care about barring a big time change.

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    Armandil [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 22:15:54

    Yes Ansgar :D

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 18:56:14

    We're not talking TO him, but ABOUT him.

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 18:52:19

    So Esteban, by your logic private discussions about the President of the United States, the staff at the local McDonalds, or the bum down the street are also pathetic on the basis that the people in question can't respond?

    You make a ridiculous statement. People don't need to be part of a conversation to be the topic of it.

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    Urban [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 18:28:24

    He likes his anus nice and clean huh?

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    Esteban [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 18:12:10

    Talking about Rhakyrh when he cannot respond... pretty pathetic...

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 15:28:34

    Funny Pounder, I knew the category by the first 3 :P

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    Ansgar [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 14:13:02

    im confused, is that you in the video Armandil?

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    Trescothik [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 11:40:27

    If I ever got jury duty i'd see to it that the person get hung for interrupting my time. We don't have the death penalty over here but i'm sure I could convince the judge.

    That is all. suck me off.

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 08:21:05

    That's not proof, you know. But whatever I really don't care if you are or aren't.

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    Armandil [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 08:03:19

    Hmmm, it looks like some stuff in the other log disappeared, and heheheh, nildnab posting the same.

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    Armandil [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 07:59:25

    Tireless, i just posted the one you fixed for me, and btw, speaking of proof that i am blind, tireless, check this side please.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfKnj4AYHDk

    Pounder, i love the entire invionment on the t2t, that's why i play it, and well, maybe it's just me, but i can't understand how a comment like, it looks like you are getting slaughtered, wouldn't it be wiser to surrender can hurt anyone, though i realize that it did hurt and therefore i apologise.

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 05:26:09

    Ok, in terms of academic honesty, when you take someone else's work and repost it... you need to give credit. So when you repost this log on the other logpage and you use an edited version, you include a line which acknowledges the contribution made by others.

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 03:38:35

    Hehe, nice one tireless. :) I only figured out something was up with the last two. Then again I am not scientist. :)

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 02:09:53

    Close, both of you.

    The category is 'Statements which are false and which, if they were true, would mean the end of humanity as we know it/the end of the world.'

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    Urban [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 01:46:23

    Category: Cunts.

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    Jakar [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 01:35:04

    Facts that are not true!?!

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 01:21:03

    Good guess, Pounder, but not where I was going. If two more people guess and don't get what I was after I'll reveal my answer.

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    21 January 2010 00:19:30

    I'll give a try Tireless, Large massive things that feed unfounded egos?

    I really like Myrddin's view on the comments. Made me laugh.

    Armandil, if you really believe that, you definitely fit in well with Fyng and others. He's lucky to have someone (as ignorant/stupid) like you. It's harsh, but there are/were people on the towers that actually loved the entire environment, not only the parts/people that made the game enjoyable solely for themselves.

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    20 January 2010 23:25:39

    Other categorically similar statements:

    * The mass of the sun is 1.9891×10^32 kg

    * The atmosphere of the Earth is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide and 400ppm H2S

    * Comfortable room temperature is between 68 and 75 degrees K

    * Rhakyrh has not and does not compulsively cheat and is not a detriment to the mudding community.

    * The combined tonnage of the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was around 500,000 megatons.

    Whoever can guess the category gets a carrot.

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    Armandil [legacy]
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    20 January 2010 22:39:12

    I didnøt choose any side, Pounder.

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    20 January 2010 18:44:17

    To clarify, I don't think Gramul was a member of megs, simply an applicant.

    On another note, Gramul you should stop mudding and become a playwright. This stuff reads like Shakespeare. Observe: the clever pun ''blacklist' as Twofoot colorfully says'; Repeated references to what the blind guy 'sees' then suddenly changing to what Baradul 'hears' (in text on a screen); and finally 'you are not the twofoot I knew', notice the lack of caps here, a play on the name which could also refer to any bipedal.

    Thoroughly enjoyed it, pure 6, though I can't rate the comments which translated the unreadable log.

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    20 January 2010 09:43:59

    Metallica blows. Mustaine is a god.

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    Cruice [legacy]
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    20 January 2010 08:16:54

    Darkness, imprisoning me, all that I see, absolute horror.

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    20 January 2010 05:15:23

    Hey Demandred.

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    Demandred [legacy]
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    20 January 2010 02:43:59

    Hi Pounder! Hi Tireless!

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    20 January 2010 01:03:28

    What tireless should have said is:

    Twofoots guild is not a true democracy and therefore he can seek whatever level the guild beleives as evidence of bad doing in order to kick someone out.

    Armandil, I would love to feel pity for you, but you chose your side. Deal with the consequences and quit whining on the log pages about it. My hope is you don't lose the rest of your non-herk friends before you lose them as a group as well.

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    20 January 2010 00:39:18

    Lobo, the rules of law only apply to a hearing before disinterested parties. If I think you slept with my wife and therefore dislike you and you want me to like you, the onus is transferred to you as you are the supplicant. I am under no legal, moral or social obligation to justify my feelings using the same rules as apply in a courtroom. The actions of a guild are closer to personal disputes than legal ones.

    The rules of law are designed such that the punitive authority of the government can't be wielded against an innocent -- let 9 guilty men go rather than punish 1 innocent. As people (or as guildmasters) we don't wield authority of that order, so we can afford error in favor of being right most of the time.

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 23:42:36

    You just put a killer back on the streets with your cowardice.

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    Urban [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 20:06:10

    You know Lobo, I was just at jury duty at the high court and we found the guy not guilty by a majority!

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 19:54:04

    Erm, wrong tireless. The burden of proof, most of times, lies on the plaintiff (actori incumbit onus probandi). If twofoot is claiming armandil did something, he (twofoot) has to prove it. Otherwise there will be doubt, and doubt favours the accused (in dubio pro reo).

    But as twofoot said, this ain't a fucking trial, get over it armandil. You consorted with herkies, you had it coming. No one cares, i just wrote that to use cool latin phrases.

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 19:46:25

    He has claimed that he's blind _with this character_. Even if he does so with _all_ his characters, it's hardly MP information to identify the fact. That'd be like me referring to you as the person playing a male character, even though you (presumably) play more than one male character.

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    Mirnac [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 19:43:39

    'The person who claims but cannot prove that he's blind'

    'We do not allow any MP info on this page, whether it be direct or the subtlest of hints. This means that you are not allowed to point out or talk about alts on comments or post about them'

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 19:39:34

    'and statements he can't even proove.'

    The person who claims but cannot prove that he's blind demanding proof from someone else to justify _their_ belief. That's rich.

    The burden of proof is always on the supplicant. Approaching Twofoot and saying 'Why don't you like me?', then answering his question with 'That's not true, show me proof!' is childish and clownlike. Twofoot remembers the shit you spewed on the other logpage, and so do I. His memory does not require proof. Not in this situation, anyway.

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    Bizarre [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 19:15:30

    First time I ever agreed with Winnetou. Really who gives a damn.

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    Armandil [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 17:46:19

    Well, you are most likely right about that akhazir, even though twofoot knew that i was his friend, and that i never would betray him nor any other friend i have, but i think he feels a little betrayed.

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 16:26:42

    Btw, Woric wins for the best comment.

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    Akhazir [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 16:11:37

    It might help to understand that your comment regarding Megs getting slaughtered and suggesting surrender sounds like you were just parroting Rhakyrh. That and you being friends with them as well showed where your loyalty lies. Twofoot is being careful and it's better to blacklist you than have you around as a member he could never be sure of anymore.

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    Armandil [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 15:47:09

    Norin, the only thing i have been commending is a good log and a read i enjoyed, i didn't say anything with, good work, keep killing them or anything like that, i only enjoyed a good and intence fight, and that is what i have been commending, therefore, i don't understand that Twofoot gets mad, even after i have tried to apologise, and i especially don't understand these false accusations, accusations and statements he can't even proove.

    And pounder, it's ok if people take distance to me because i have some friends from a certain group, as long as i know that i haven't done anything wrong except being friends with some people some other people dislike, i mean, what the fuck is going on?

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 14:59:29

    ~F~

    That was a flying F.

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    Winnetou [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 14:41:05

    i mean who cares who reads this nobody gives a flying f

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    Norin [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 13:01:27

    You have been giving pats on the backs of GB members\allies on the other log page. You have commended their work, and approved of their logs. How can you not understand what you have done? I do not care alot about this meaningless stuff, but really, to every action there is a reaction, or something... :) Get over it.

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 09:56:07

    He only asks because he wants to look magnanimous.

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    Lucky [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 08:41:19

    'Holy shit, and you all hate and call us liars.'

    Considering I was a witness and sometimes a participant in said peace negotiations, I'd say you're a dummy Cruice.

    Begging? Nah. Constantly asking? Yah.

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 06:53:53

    Why are people so surprised by such events when they willingly are friend/ally/guildmate with Rhakyrh? Gramul, this has nothing to do with you on an individual level in a unique manner, but you were a stupid dumbass for not listening to the tons of people telling you he's not worth being a friend to. Don't worry, you will probably end up losing more before the day's done.

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    Etrius [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 06:33:41

    approach = reproach. Sorry, I'm a little drunk.

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    Etrius [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 06:28:55

    And I say this as someone whose had a lot of alts, and been in both a lot of different guilds and a lot of different wars.

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    Etrius [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 06:27:29

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but my basic gist of this is that that poster in question made a risque comment regarding his alt's guild war on the logpage and his alt was subsequently expelled from said guild as a result of said comment.

    I dunno, seems like common sense to me. If people know your alts, and you have characters with opposing affiliations, then unless you're extremely well established in both guilds, and utterly beyond approach, then your best bet is just to keep out of it. Otherwise you're bound to cause complications.

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    Nalthic [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 05:14:21

    eh, I wouldn't necessarily call Megs liars, I know Baradul had a lot of kills, and I know Rhakyrh approached megs with peace several times. I doubt he begged, but he definately approached him with it.

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    Brubaker [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 04:08:34

    yeah, pretty much.

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    Cruice [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 03:43:27

    Baradul tells you: we dont post everything that happens, i myself was involved in around 30 kills on Gbs. And thats just speaking for myself.

    Twofoot tells you: we dont post all our logs... and we dont keep score on the logpage, or spamming alexa... GB came begging to me for peace 11 times... on the 12th time i agreed

    Holy shit, and you all hate and call us liars.

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 02:18:38

    Agreed with the herkie Ural. but since it was made readable by the tireless tireless i gave in my 2 cents.

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    Ural [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 02:17:23

    Personally, I think this is all completely retarded and shouldn't have been posted.

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 02:09:56

    I read half of it and clearly Twofoot is an imbecile, but i can't condemn him at all because that's what you get for consorting with herkies, armandil. I told you that before.

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    Colven [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 01:44:49

    I don't really feel like reading that comment either

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 01:36:51

    Editorial notes are bounded by **'s. Armandil, please have someone edit your buffer in the future before you post, as it is not legible in the formatting you used for this log.

    Twofoot tells you: i thought it was a misunderstanding when you killed our wolf... but after reading the ocmments you made week after week on the logpage... it is clear you are a stooge for the GB... so don’t think you can curry favor with me... not anymore

    You tell Twofoot: you think that i am with megs on gramul and gb on **Alt info deleted**, hehehehe

    You tell Twofoot: the thing with the wolf was a misunderstanding, i thought we had cleared,i didn't think you would take that up again, please give me examples of how i might have offended you?

    You tell Twofoot: i didn't know you would take it to this point, though i wish no trouble with meglivornth, cause you know as well as i do that i have friends in there, as well as in gb

    Twofoot tells you: you have no friends here

    You tell Twofoot: this is insanity

    You tell Twofoot: point out to me what i have done, except saying that it would be wise to surrender

    Twofoot tells you: mind your words and make them sweet for one day you never know when you will have to eat

    Baradul is idle, and might not respond to your tell.

    You tell Baradul: why?

    Twofoot tells you: oh it was a lot more than that

    Twofoot tells you: revelling in meg deaths...

    You tell Twofoot: what was it? show it to me, tell me what it was?

    Baradul tells you: why what?

    Twofoot tells you: fortunately... our services are *at will* which means we are not obligated to service anyone we dont wish to

    You tell Twofoot: what are you talking about?

    You tell Baradul: why this?

    Baradul tells you: heh, what?

    You tell Twofoot: i know that your services are at ree will, but are you confusing me with someone else or something like that, revelling in meg deaths?

    You tell Baradul: i wish you could see the tells twofoot sends me? what is it i have done to stand on the bad side of meglivornth?

    Twofoot tells you: this is not a trial, i dont have to present evidence, there will be no witnesses... you are very simply persona no grata

    You tell Twofoot: but explain to me what it is i have done?

    Twofoot tells you: persona non grata

    Baradul tells you: i dont know what you two are talking about. But everyone who's friends with the herks are not very popular here. *shrug*

    You tell Baradul: this is insanity man, the only thing i said on the logpage, was, of what i could see, that the megs got slaughtered, and because of care for my own friends, the guild i was applied to, for the newpeople in megs, i said, why not surrender, is this enough reasonfor you guys to put me on the blacklist astwofoot so colorfully says?

    Twofoot is writing a note, and can not respond until finished.

    You tell Twofoot: you are not the twofoot i knew

    Baradul tells you: that's a pretty stupid thing to say considering its not even close to true.

    Baradul tells you: and pretty offensive too

    You tell Baradul: hell, weren't we friends? i went inactive for a month or something, before that, me and twofoot was very very good friends, when i returned, he hates me for a few words, a suggestion, nothing else,what the hell is going on?

    You tell Baradul: that's the point, i said, of what i could see, considering i wasn't playing, i said it looks like, i didn't say, wow, megs getting slaughtered, cowerds, fools, anything like that

    Baradul tells you: as i said, your comments are pretty stupid *shrug*

    Baradul tells you: that's what it sounds like

    You tell Baradul: so, in your ears, when i say, it looks like meglivornth is getting slaughtered, why not surrender, it sounds like i'm saying, shit, what a bunch of fools and cowerds!

    Baradul tells you: yea pretty muchtell baradul and considering i said it on another char, my char which was applied to the guild

    You tell Baradul: and considering i said it on another char, my char which was applied to the guild

    You tell Baradul: insanity

    **A tell from Baradul appears to have been deleted here**

    Baradul tells you: even more stupid.

    Baradul tells you: you should not rely so much on what Rhakyrh and his friends says, most of it is not true.

    You tell Baradul: you know it yourself i guess, i don't know what is going on here, i could understand if i had helped killing megs, or if i offended by saying fools and cowerds, but again, it was nothing else but a point of view and a suggestion

    You tell Baradul: i read the logs

    You tell Baradul: nothing else

    You tell Twofoot: and i didn't choose any side

    You tell Baradul: and i didn't choose any side

    Baradul tells you: how can you make an opinion based on logs?

    You tell Baradul: because, i got friends in both guilds, therefore i wouldn't choose any side

    You tell Baradul: what should i do? i consider logs as copies of events from the game

    You tell Baradul: and therefore consider them true

    Baradul tells you: dunno apologize maybe

    You tell Baradul: apoligise? i have tried, but as i say, this is insanity, what should i apologise for?

    Twofoot tells you: if you have any desire to wash clean this mark you placed on yourself then fine...perhaps you can undo the ill favor... but that is entirely up to you

    Baradul tells you: we dont post everything that happens, i myself was involved in around 30 kills on Gbs. And thats just speaking for myself.

    You tell Twofoot: listen, i do this for the friends i have in meglivornth, and nothing else, iwill not ask for any orders in the futurue, but i apologisefor, if i in any way, by suggesting anything, have harmed you or the guild, i am sorry for stating a simple comment, and nothing else

    Twofoot tells you: you dont get to pretend to be my friend then besmirch me behind my back

    You tell Twofoot: pretend being your friend behind your back?

    Twofoot tells you: your rants on the logpage were long and unseemly...

    Twofoot tells you: it will take more than that i think

    You tell Twofoot: i have been inactive for about a month or so, in that month, i have been reading logs, considering they were true, i consider logs as copies of events from the game, what i could see, was, that new and old people in meglivornth got killed over and over again, and therefore, i said, why ldn't it be more wise to surrender, nothing else, i know that you as well might have killed gbas many times as they killed you, without posting it, but i am taking distance from that, because, you didn't post it, i would never have made such a comment if i could see that the fight was even, but i couldn't

    You tell Twofoot: long? many? you can't show me any examples, i will go through the logs and read the comments to see how the heck i might have offended you, when i got inactive, we were the finest friends, weren't we? yes we were! when i return, i get a shitstorm because of a simple comment

    You tell Twofoot: and i have apologised twice now

    Twofoot tells you: we dont post all our logs... and we dont keep score on the logpage, or spamming alexa... GB came begging to me for peace 11 times... on the 12th time i agreed

    You tell Twofoot: that's great, but what do you want to say with that

    Twofoot tells you: our kill ratio was 3-1 (3 kills to every death)

    You tell Twofoot: that you killed them more times then they killed you? i won't say that's great, because i have friends from gb, as well, as i never chose gb's side, as well, as never chose gb's side, as well, as i never said, wow, it's great how many megs you kill, keep doing the good work, iwould never do that to friends

    Twofoot tells you: but you did...

    Twofoot tells you: good day

    You tell Twofoot: show me the comment section where i did, please show me it, so i can read it myself, if that's true what you are saying

    Twofoot tells you: dont make me put you on ignore too

    You tell Twofoot: i am sorry to see what have become of my old friend, really sorry,k again, i apologise if i have offended you in any way, but mine and yours friendship is over by this, please post an apology for me on the guild board so i can keep my other friends inmegs without having to spend over 20 mins discussing something that isn't true, you acuse me for something i haven't done

    You tell Baradul: i don't know if we still are friends, but either way, i am sorry if i have offended you, i say this because we once were friends

    You tell Baradul: we don't need to be friends, i just want you to know that i didn't sympathise with any side, beause i have friends in both guilds

    Baradul tells you: its only a game, i dont care enough to hold grudges ;)

    Twofoot tells you: why would i post an apology?

    You tell Baradul: you are right about that, i just think it's sad to see how far someone will go, i mean, i don't care either, if course i care for friends, that is why i am discussing this with twofoot for over 20 mins, but otherwise, well, it's fine with me

    You tell Twofoot: don't post it, i will see to it that i apologise to all my friends in megs and see if they are offended

    Twofoot tells you: irrelevant

    You tell Twofoot: this is pure insanity, 100 %, you are accusing me of something i haven't done, and you can't even proove one single of your statements

    Twofoot tells you: you mouth off in rl... you get a punch in the nose

    You tell Twofoot: i will see to it that i apologise to any friend that feels offended

    Twofoot tells you: not as many people read the log page as you think

    You tell Twofoot: but you are hopeless, i have tried to clear this, tried all i can, but you a stubborn dwarf, fine with me, i am not gonna waste any more time on this

    Twofoot tells you: groovy

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    Colven [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 01:35:08

    Faster Etrius!

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    Etrius [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 00:35:21

    That's the very first part.

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    Etrius [legacy]
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    19 January 2010 00:35:08

    You tell Twofoot: blacklisted? for what man?

    Twofoot tells you: badmouthing us on the log page...

    Twofoot tells you: did you think we would not read it

    Twofoot tells you: or that we would not care

    You tell Twofoot: i didn't say anything with that meglivornth were cowerds, or anything like that, i just could see that a lot of my friends in meglivornth got killed, slaughtered, and i asked if it wasn't wiser to surrender, is that badmouthing?

    Twofoot tells you: yes

    Twofoot tells you: and we did not surrender... we prevailed

    You tell Twofoot: good job, indeed, i am sorry if i have offended you in any way, though this is taking it way too sirious, i could understand if i said something like that megs were cowerds and fools, but i didn't, i just could see that many people got slaughtered, considering i didn't even say it with gramul, you are going to blacklist all my chars, i didn't think you would do

    You tell Twofoot: but i am not going to beg for the megs services, if i am considered an enemy for a few words on another alt

    Twofoot tells you: i have...

    You tell Twofoot: mirely a suggestion, nothing else

    You tell Blaez: dangit

    Twofoot tells you: sorry... you dont get to play both sides...

    You tell Twofoot: both side

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    Mirnac [legacy]
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    18 January 2010 22:18:32

    Unreadable

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    18 January 2010 21:46:04

    Yeah seriously wtf.

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    Lucky [legacy]
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    18 January 2010 21:42:27

    Ok. I don't want to spend 2 hours reading this non-wrapped log...

    Someone sum it up for me?

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    Woric [legacy]
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    18 January 2010 21:40:54

    sick log bro

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    Armandil [legacy]
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    18 January 2010 21:33:19

    Posting for gramul and sorry if it is difficult to read.

    But you know how bad i am at it, but i wanted to share this with you