Well, i read the message on the board, and about 2 minutes later he dies. Galuf is a true RPer, I respect him with all my heart. He plays the game the way it should be played.
Well, I dont go to mordor, usually not MT and only to rivendell for crystals. But then again the world doesn't revolve around me.
WTF IS THIS CRAP!?!?!
'...The world doesn't revolve around MT, Rivendell and Mordor ...'
Bashgeroy, you some kinda blasphemor? You start jabbering rhetoric like this again and I hope you get nuked, you crack pot whacko!!
*snickers as the insanity grips him*
Wow, not that I really wanted to see Galuf die at all, but that was a very good log. I don't consider myself a good player, or anyone special here so I am doubtful my opinions matter, but Talan jeez - that was pretty tight *claps*
Tuareg, people play their personalities and this is how it should be.The game is how you would react if you lived in the third age.I'm a crazy bastard IRL (very illogical), I do insane things,I like extreme stuff, I love martial arts.There are such people in Tolkien's books too.
I for example like Fingolfin,Feanor, Hurin, Boromir, Tom Bombadil, Tulkas, Radagast and prefer reading for them than for some moron like Aragorn (I really don't like numenoreans).
Tolkien created many personalities, not only Sauron and Elrond.The world doesn't revolve around MT, Rivendell and Mordor - there are dunlendings (the people of Dale too), eorlings,people who have never heard what is Mordor.The variags (of whom noone had heard) were the best fighters.Why not then someone who was born in the hills of Dunland to have traveled, learned how to fight and become a good warrior, taking from the world what he could, careless about Sauron?
The people in Middle earth have their own lives, they don't live because of Sauron or Galadirel.
That's what RP is for.
But I certainly disagree that some prod can be a better weapon than a good sword and that an elven mail can be crap armour.
Yeah, this is a pk.
Wasach, I didnt really think of this as Rping. I just thought of it as killing the guy who just killed my friend. I wasnt sure if he was going to report me or not, because i wasnt sure if it was RP or PK..So i took the safe route and had a friend kill him.
In addition..
Making sure someone gets there gear back after dying in RP combat is just a simple way of one side telling the other side, 'shit and damnitall, no hard feelings, eh?'
and if one person gets killed alot in RP combat in looks alot less like RP and more like someone's Guild is using RP as an excuse to pK an individual. pK occurs as a natural part of RP but RP should not be used as a means to pK.
Perhaps everyone that doesn't want to RP a Tolkien type character gets a line in their legend (like Guildinfo)...
legend xxxx
RP type: N/A I refuse to follow the theme of this game and will act however I wish, irregardless of the theme of this game.
legendinfo: I am a nutloving piece of trash who choosing not to RP, you attack me, I report becuase I like the feel of an Ice Staff up my ass
Talan, I think you misunderstood my comment...
There would have been nothing wrong with you bandaging or killing him at that point but to bandage him and then comm for someone else to put him down violates your RP as you state it. You already violated your RP by bandaging him, so what of your profession...I know sheriffs still on 'the force' who have landed deathblows in RP combat and IF this is what that was, then you should have no worries.
Mimak, dont tell me that the current RP system doesn spawn hatred. Look at the comments between Clive and Wasach on the Balal hunts in RP log. There are many more strings like that as well. People will hate each other for 'fireballing at ND' MORE than they will hate them for just killing them in RP combat, because at then the responsability for the death lies soley with the PLAYER WHO DIED. Theres no reason to get pissed at anyone else if you were to stupid to leave the room on time. This differs from the current RP combat system though, because if someone fireballs you at DLSG, you have a valid reason to get pissed at someone, because they 'broke the RPing rules'.
Indeed, Real RP will LOWER guild hatred among rping guilds.
die die and die.
Roleplaying isnt well-defined and everyone interprets it in another way. Roleplaying 'Talan' style is perhaps more life-like. No annoying rules and whining during RP combat. But where does it end? Everytime a person dies in RP combat he holds a grudge against a player or guild. Sure, you can say: 'get over it, this is RP',
but thats not how it works. If it happens a lot to a person, he's struck emotionally in real life. And where does it all lead to? Loss
of Respect. RESPECT. Thats what roleplay is built on in the first place. In case of the current Udungul-BkD quarrels thats where it went wrong. No respect from either side and you end up
in war situation in what? a week? I can tell you, this doesnt in any way add up to the experience here. At least, for roleplayers. Playerkillers will probably love it. If this kind of behaviour goes through every guild in Arda will turn into a playerkiller type guild. I play here because its supposed to be fun. When my future-view of this world only involves agression, grudges, cocky behaviour then you'll bring RL issues into a game. And those issues are things Im trying to get away from here in the first place.
Yeah, shame on Talan, a random unexperienced newbie meg. ;)
Roleplay is a figment of your collective imaginations. There is only chaos.
(oh, and Talan told me it was because the system is bugged, and I beleive him. Not worth having to change professions.)
Um, hello, Udungul are evil.
That's why I will never understand guilds.
Evil people (in general, dunno Udungul's exact theme statement yet) kill civilians with reckless abandon. They loot and pillage towns. They come to you are friends and stab you as soon as you turn their back.
Sauron is winning this was because people like the KoDA are like 'oh, you died? Bad luck, old chap, here's your stuff back'
If Italacus hadn't gotten Cutlass, I would've kept it so that evil could use it no longer.
Well, until I got killed myself, but that's all relative :)
Yes, you should have Brahm. I told him to watch out for you, but apparently he wasnt smart enough to listen.
Okay, wasach, you need to distinguish between your RP, and MY Rp.
You're a KODA. You're honorable and sparing life when you can is considered good RP.
I'm Udungul. We kill dwarves elves and men for the glory of sauron. We dont bandage them for the glory of sauron. So it would be horrible RP for me to do so.
Squibb said that RP rules are out the window now. I saw Jackel in Edoras RPing with Amruin earlier at near death. I should have fucked him up, right Squibb?
I don't know, reading this log and the last one that looked more like crap than RP. You bandaged him and spared his life which is totally cool and earned you lots of kudos...then you trashed it when I was you comming for someone to come finish him off. That was totally fucked up.
Talan! They will respawn! It is ok!
Real RP is better because:
1. Theres no fucking whining about headbutting, casting, or backstabbing at dlsg-nd.
2. The rules are simple, no hunting.
3. Any moron can understand them, and it is easy to tell when they are broken.
4. There is no RP hypocrasy. If someone kills your best friend (npc) then you want to KILL them. You should RP like NPC's are real people, and so it makes sense to be deadly serious when defending them.
5. Casualties will NOT increase by much, because if everyone KNOWS that they can be headbutted at nd/dlsg, they will LEAVE SOONER.'
6. Conclusion: RP enjoyability will increase, deaths will stay constant, and Guild RP whining will decrease.
There was Josi Clive Italacus and Galuf, they head
butted at dlsg and all so I guess all rules are
thrown out the window now for RP combat.
Wow I find that kind of funny, considering I told the guys to always shape before they headbutted, and from what I saw they did. But it was strange when Ailin headbutted me during all this and I was DLSG.. But of course it is ok for YOU people to do this, but not anyone else... *heh*
And Galuf is a cool guy, but his ideas about this are messed up. We do not kill during RP, no one should. It then just makes people NOT want to RP, which IMO is fun. I'm sorry Spartan had to die, and I did not know he was DLSG when Galuf fireballed him. Else I would have stopped it, but if you were being casted at when that low.. umm why not go like west or north? Kinda just stood there.. but hey it was still our mistake. And we did not intend to kill anyone.
Just thought I'd add all that,
Ital
ROFL