I just needed to make a quick 1k to level up.. Head to Edoras.. Start killing the woman damn Amruin show up.. I decide I'm not gonna let them ruin my day :) Havok comes to back me, Nom and Paladinz come to back Rhoads.. Who wins? Read it and find out! *Hopefully in color*
Well whenever i killed in erebor, or my friends, you never hunted us. *shrug* I was a durm, so were my friends.
Thats really not true, I should know a little better than you... But we certainly did hunt them elsewhere.
Odd, when durms and CoU came to kill in erebor, you never hunted them either. *scratch*
Yes Talan, Ive changed my oppinion, got a problem with that?
>Funny how things change now that you actually have opponents with skill.
*shrug* Im sure that you think the durms and cou back then had no skill. What do you think Manni?
But no matter how you try to twist this Talan, the matter of fact is, that 'your' kind of roleplay causes griefing. And when that happens, people tend to loose the energy to give that little extra flavour to their roleplay (It just boils down to numbers and stats) ... and thats when this game becomes really boring.
But then again, I don't (anymore) find PK particular interesting ... and since this is a PK game, I guess this ain't the game for me.
skill? did i miss something ? :)
When you come down to it, if you die in our style of RP combat, you have 1 person to blame, yourself. If you die in this hypocritical bs rp combat system, then you have everyone but yourself to blame. That causes whining and bitching more than any possible outcome of Real RPing.
Its funny how your perspective changes eh Balinul?
I remember the days when you were Azim and used to just love locking up Level 11's in erebor.
Funny how things change now that you actually have opponents with skill.
I agree the examples that you gave are examples of people trying to PK, rather than RP, Balinul.
But I agree with Manni on one point. You shouldn't be forced to let up if your opponent gets low in RP combat. (Nor should you hunt, or try to make their hands full, etc.), but I think that the burden of running is on the one with low hp. If you're foolish enough to stay around while you have low hp and I'm casting fireball, then you deserve to die :p. The only exception to the rule is lag. But it's impossible to know whether they lag or not.
One may argue that headbutts are instant, but I can't imagine what someone would be doing sitting around in combat with less hp than a headbutt does. That's just asking to be killed.
If, I make someone bleed in 'RP combat', I bandage them if I can, but that's at my discretion, and because I would HOPE for the same back, but I never expect it.
Most importantly, have fun
-Jas
Thats all very jolly fine Manni. Thematicly you're absolutely right about those things... However, that is NOT how things work out on this mud.
Most often or not, these things turn out to cause griefing among players. People use things specificly to PK (And return grief) while not caring one bit about the RP of the scenario.
Let me give you three examples taken from your own examples (BKD/Udungul).
Galuf kills Spartan in a RP battle using Toto's tactics of fireballing. Galuf has now been PK quite a few times by Udungul (Or friends) as far as these boards show. Is that encouraging fun for all sides?
Brahm saw Kaizen killing on the Erebor wall. Brahm went to defend ... Immidiately after attacking Kaizen, he got spammed senseless with emotes and given items to disallow him from climbing down the wall. Shortly after a wizard (Arthlor) and a warrior from Udungul came and started headbutting/fireballing. Was this not an attempt to use this solely for PK?
I logged on one day, saw some Udungul killing in Erebor. I gathered a big group of dwarven warriors, and went in with the specific purpose of killing the Udungul. By using tactics of focus on a single person a time, etc, we managed to kill 3 of them. They hardly stood a chance and the individual kills were over within 2-3 rounds. Was that in particular fun for anyone? It certainly only stopped the supposed RP fight and resulted in alot of verbal abuse from the killed.
So basicly Manni (and those that share his ideas). Its jolly fine trying to want to make things realistic... fighting to the death... this being a war... etc, etc.
However, it doesn't work like that. The only result is grief players, abuse, harassment and the following inactiveness, multiplayer problems and suicides.
I would respect your arguments a whole lot more Manni, if you instead just played out straight. What I presume you want is playerkilling. PK is what interests you, and is more or less the only thing that really keeps your interest in this game. Now, thats cool too. Ive been there, I know what you are talking about.
So, shouldn't the game be constructed so you can play it like you really want it to? Like a PK game ... or as others would say: Quake.TXT (Tolkien version).
Arache tells you: (Shadow) Physics is gay
You are now ignoring Arache.
:P
I am agree with what Manni said. Hell.. When I was in Amruin, you can always see me defending the Edoras civilians. When they are starting to looks like want to kill me, I changed my RP way, and sometimes I do killed the attacker, that was not my fault, no one ever bitch about they being killed in Edoras in 'RP' last time.
And some names come to my mind, Manni, Zora, Nash... Those were the days :P...
-NC.
ps: Manni somehow left the Amruin after they found out that the lady got pregnant, guess who is the father? That is why she is so sad about her husband now. *wink Manni*
Manthalion, I think evil invaders of Rohan would typically, seeing their opponents near death, lay off and decide not to finish them. That sounds like what would happen. As roleplaying defenders of Edoras, you should defend until you die, are forced to retreat, or you have successfully fended off the evil element. As raiders upon Edoras, you should combat the defenders by ny means necessary, with the aim of killing them or making them retreat. The burden of staying alive in battles needs to be placed on the person with low hit points, not the person who is winning. If you are fighting a wizard, and you have 90hp, then they start casting fireball at you, then maybe it's time to heal up, hmm? This isnt an argument I'm making to defend Toto, its an argument I've made for a while now and it should be applicable to both sides. In northeast Arda between BkD and Udungul, a lot of this is starting to take place and I think that's great.
'You say: Sup?'
Wow, what a great RP greeting, especially for someone who's trying to drive you out of their town. I'll have to remember that one.
*chuckles*
*notices how Havoc headbutts Rhaods at ND* Good RP! *walks away*
They should have a 'cast daze all' command. Then we can have some fun =)
Those tells at the end, more evidence that talking to a californian is like banging your head against a brick wall...but dumber.
Yeah, your an elite player Toto and I'm a good player:P Thanx.Blah, Rhoads, you can't whack a lame wizard, they are the easiest targets:P
The only thing that really annoys me in this log is this. There are other 'types' of logs besides 'Player kill' try that next time damn it, nobody died! :)
Thats all good that you have your comments Tuareg. But the thing is, Raen and I are the only active members really on now.. and considering all the equipment I had was stuff that I had gotten *Besides healing and dark ring*, I can get my own equipment. So no matter, I would have still whomped on them if I was in a guild or not. You see Tuareg, there is a differance between 'good' players, and Elite players. Take that as you will.
Hey, yet check your hp going to 66 :P
And Toto, the peasant isan't the woman
*rotfl* Get off. Did you see me drink a potion?? You COULDN'T have hit me :):) 145 dodge baby. If I had my galadriel vial, I would have taken all 3 of you alone, but left it at the board.. blah :) Plus. I was hitting the damn woman the whole time I thought I was fireballing Paladinz, and we still beat ur ass. Get off. :)
If i was not unnamred you would have taken some masive beating toto :P